Thursday, 20 January 2011

*VERY IMPORTANT VIDEO*: OUR ENEMIES DISCUSS HOW TO SQUASH US IN ENGLAND - "THE RISE OF STREET EXTREMISM"

An Irish former-revolutionary now sell-out / former police chiefs who dealt with Miners Strike, Poll Tax and Brixton etc all discuss how to beat us, politically and literally. So so much interesting stuff in here, needs close study and lessons learnt on the basis of.

For those radical and revolutionary activists, this is THE MOST important video I have ever put up. Study closely what they are saying and analyse from a revolutionary perspective the lessons to be learnt for us. Just too much incredible info in this.



Thanks to Brother Adam X for this summary of the talk:

- 'for kettling to work, police need to be able to beat with impunity'
- 'bring apsects of anti-terror legislation to public order legislation' (phone taps? control orders on protest dates?)
- 'kettles + snatch squads'
- 'the bnp aren't really a problem' (and edl apparently not even worth mentioning in the response to the question)

'the protest at prlment sq reminds of terrorism'

they deny and cast doubt and avoid responsibility for every *POLICE INJUSTICE* from the death of the newspaper seller at G20, to the policeman who got caught on camera at G20, to Jody McIntyre getting dragged off a wheelchair across the street.

i think the fact that they're massively over-hyping UKuncut means we can suppose that they are equally over-comitted to keeping the consumer economy going...

and i'm not surprised that the CST guy was quite pleased with the way over 90 Muslim youths were given much harsher sentences & 'made an example of'
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More comments from another few friends:

i agree this is an important video. not so much because it represents any theoretical breakthroughs in the way of repression, but more because it provides ample quotes from established counter-insurgency figures about what they're afraid of (the "feral underclass" as one puts it) and how they hope to neutralize it (applying the "vital tactic of kettling" to political debate as effectively as to street protest).
A good educational tool for our side to use - thanks comrade for drawing our attention to it!

Another friend:

Immediate thoughts that haven't been mentioned.

Ideological war, politically and via the media (one guy said "the media story") - it's obviously gonna step up, our side needs to step waaaaay up

All the powers police need are there for them, we don't need to worry about new laws being passed, they are just not using them because of events like the Smellie arrest "terrified" them.

They are shook about a critical mass developing - but don't see that happen in the student protests

They are worried about they Euro collapse, austerity measures kicking in and the effect of the f***eries they have caused in Pakistan calling the chickens home to roost.

Small protests are counterproductive for the protesters, feds don't care cos "no one will take notice")

Kettling will be kept "at all costs" - it is cost effective

I didn't know how seriously to take their concerns about the European Human Rights laws because I can't really see how they have benefited protesters except that protesters can use them in the ideological war in the sense that they can shout about the police being in breach of the convention.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Henry Robinson, the Irish speaker who makes the first contribution, is a former member of the Stalinist "Workers Party" in Ireland, who was jailed for shooting a member of the IRA.

When he got out of prison, he got involved in an organisation called FAIT (Families Against Intimidation and Terror) which campaigned against radical groups and made a big thing of picketing Sinn Fein meetings.

It was widely believed that FAIT was funded by MI5, but the organisation fell apart before it could achieve anything when a senior member, Vincent McKenna, was convicted of child sexual abuse.

Henry Robinson has worked for various British government funded agencies, usually with a anti- Republican agenda for twenty years.

It sounds like he now wants to ban twitter, because it can be used to organise protests.

In my opinion, calling him a revolutionary, or even a former-revolutionary is a bit of a stretch.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Families_Against_Intimidation_and_Terror

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/hated-are-the-peacemakers-smears-have-put-members-of-a-small-but-vocal-irish-peace-group-at-risk-says-ruth-dudley-edwards-1381109.html

Anonymous said...

pay close attention to the body language of the speakers

henry robinson does not appear confident of his own beliefs, indicates that he telling non-truths and generally looks very uncomfortable
before a supportive audience

the second speaker moves in ways that suggests he is seeking praise, but perhaps expects criticism, for his activities

the remaining two speakers are comfortable in themselves and display strong beliefs based on education and experience

i suspect that the first speaker is deceptive about his beliefs and uses deception to achieve them, consistent with being an employed political agent

he has no conviction which is a pre-requisit for a redemption

the second speaker is clear about his beliefs and uses deception to achieve them suggesting a self employed political agent

the remaining two speakers are honest about their beliefs and their methods consistent with being conscientious members of the public

the key to outing enemies of the public (undercover cops and military) is to be on the lookout for lack of coherent self belief from people that claim to be acting on conviction

Sukant Chandan said...

thanks the first Anon for those very useful comments.

Justice Peace said...

Thank you all for the work here and contributions. Information needs dissemination for all to understand. The effort by others to lead by fear and, biased and unbalanced influencing of the ignorant needs to be exposed for what it is: A dangerous sham designed to keep those that promote it in a position of wealth, arrogance and greed, much to the harm and painful disadvantage of those who are supposed to be protected.

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Anonymous said...

This is, as you say, very important, and I'll be sharing it on Facebook to get it to as many people as possible.
Red Sonja

Anonymous said...

My summary as posted on FB

the first speaker, Henry Robinson, is a former member of the "Workers Party" in Ireland, who was jailed for shooting a member of the IRA. When he got out of prison, he was involved in an organisation called (Families Against Intimidation and Terror) which was widely believed to be funded by MI5, campaigning against radical groups and picketing Sinn Fein meetings.
Robinson describes UK uncut as ‘extremism’ and a ‘significant threat to democracy’ which needs to be stopped in its infancy. (Sounds like he would like to ban twitter in order to do this.)

the next speaker, Paul Mercer, is an ‘authority on extremism’ who spied on CND and other peace groups for BAe, and advises companies on protests. He suggest the police have gone soft. He bemoans the ‘reluctance of police officers to hit people as hard as is necessary’ because they are ‘terrified of being filmed’

Red Sonja

Anonymous said...

the third speaker, David Maclean, former police minister, a Thatcherite who infamously said of beggars 'I always give them something - I give them a piece of my mind’. He also bemoans the ‘weakness’ of police, who are ‘on the run’. ‘The vital tactic of kettling’– ‘there must be a more vigorous approach’ – ‘show every potential demonstrator or agitator that you cannot get away with it’ ‘The govt has to kettle the debate as efficiently as the Met kettles rioters’.

Red Sonja

Anonymous said...

I can’t watch any more cos its eating my data allowance :(

Anonymous said...

if theyre terrified of being filmed, do we need more cameras than theyve got.? turn the watchers into the watched.

Anonymous said...

I so agree with anonymous ..its maybe time to turn the camera’s(plural )on the watcher’s..not enough yet has been done on this front..even listening devices they use them.As the say in SAS proper prior planning prevents
a piss poor show. "smarter and smarter" we become.
For as we all know their play with Internet ..I am for example unable today to send emails to Press tv in Iran!! thats from Australia !!..We really need to take out the technology smarts they put in place..and stop their War Machine..like disabling planes drones even battleship rockets hahah. love Sons OF MALCOLM!